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Call-In of Cabinet Minute 186 (4 September 2008) - Wirral Partnership Homes - Proposed Amendments to Constitution pdf icon PDF 45 KB

At its meeting held on 4 September 2008, the Cabinet considered the report of the Deputy Chief Executive/Director of Corporate Services, which advised of proposals put forward by Wirral Partnership Homes to amend its constitution and sought the Cabinet’s endorsement of those changes.

 

The Cabinet (minute 186) resolved – That

 

(1) Wirral Partnership Homes be requested to avoid meetings of the full Council when setting their meeting dates and be provided with details of the Council’s calendar of meetings; and

 

(2) the Council member vote in favour of the amendments to the Articles of Association of Wirral Partnership Homes Limited.

 

Cabinet minute 186 was called in by Councillors Duffey, K Hayes, Rennie, Blakeley, Fraser and Green on the following grounds –

 

“We believe that the Cabinet decision to instruct the Council’s representative to vote in favour of the amendment to the Articles of Association of Wirral Partnership Homes Ltd (WPH) at its Annual General Meeting on 30 September 2008 to be ill judged and has the potential to impact on residents of Wirral, particularly those who rent or are leaseholders of WPH, without any checks and balances from any of the Council Nominated Directors.

 

Whilst we agree that the quorum should be six voting Directors, we believe that among those present should be a Council-nominee. We also have concerns that the minutes of WPH Board Meetings are not open to public scrutiny and are effectively secret, and therefore we believe it is essential that Council Directors are present at WPH Board Meetings.

 

We therefore call on Cabinet to rethink its decision of 4 September and instruct the representative to vote AGAINST the amendment to the Articles of Association of Wirral Partnership Homes.”

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15.

Chair's Opening Remarks

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed everybody to the meeting and, subject to the agreement of the Committee, he outlined the procedure he proposed to adopt to deal with the call-in item. Scrutiny call-in guidelines had been written in order to assist those planning and taking part in a call-in meeting and had been produced having regard to the process described in the Council Constitution (Part 4: Overview and Scrutiny Procedure Rules), as well as in Standing Orders 26(4) and 35.

 

He commented also that Councillor Crabtree had been unable to attend the meeting. However, he had invited Councillor Harney to attend to give evidence, if the Committee were in agreement, as he was also a Board member of Wirral Partnership Homes (WPH). Councillor Blakeley indicated that he had no objection to this.

 

It was moved by Councillor Blakeley and seconded by Councillor Fraser –

 

“That consideration of this matter be deferred to a future date, as the meeting is unconstitutional, the call-in guidelines not being in accordance with the Council’s constitution”

 

The Director of Law, HR and Asset Management indicated that the guidelines had been produced to assist members of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee. However, they could be varied as the Committee wished.

 

The motion was put and lost (3:4), Councillors Blakeley, Fraser and Pritchard voting in favour; and Councillors Doyle, McLachlan, Salter and Taylor voting against.

16.

Declarations of Interest/Party Whip

Members are asked to consider whether they have personal or prejudicial interests in connection with any item(s) on this agenda and, if so, to declare them and state what they are.

 

Members are reminded that they should also declare, pursuant to paragraph 18 of the Overview and Scrutiny Procedure Rules, whether they are subject to a party whip in connection with any item(s) to be considered and, if so, to declare it and state the nature of the whipping arrangement.

Minutes:

Members were asked to consider whether they had personal or prejudicial interests in connection with any item(s) on this agenda and, if so, to declare them and state what they were.

 

Members were reminded that they should also declare, pursuant to paragraph 18 of the Overview and Scrutiny Procedure Rules, whether they were subject to a party whip in connection with any item(s) to be considered and, if so, to declare it and state the nature of the whipping arrangement.

 

The Director of Law, HR and Asset Management referred to paragraph 12 of the Code of Conduct, and advised that those members who had been called as witnesses, and who were Board members of Wirral Partnership Homes would have a prejudicial interest in the matter before the Committee. He advised therefore, that they should withdraw from the meeting after having given evidence to the Committee. Councillor Blakeley commented that it was a matter for individual members, as to whether they declared an interest, and whether or not they subsequently withdrew from the meeting.

 

Councillor Duffey made the following declaration –

 

“I have been requested to attend this meeting to provide evidence in respect of the ‘call-in’ of Cabinet minute 186.

 

I am not part of the decision making process in respect of this matter, I appear here today as both a Director of Wirral Partnership Homes and a Councillor of this Authority.

 

If I were to be determining this matter and taking the decisions, it is my view that I would have a personal interest and also a prejudicial interest in the matter that is being considered today. I say this because I am a Director of Wirral Partnership Homes and as the matter being reviewed today has a direct implication upon them, so it is my view that such an interest is likely to be prejudicial if I were making the decision.

 

However, I am relying upon you to make the decision after hearing evidence and information from myself and my colleague Councillor Karen Hayes as well as other witnesses”

 

Councillor K Hayes made the following declaration –

 

“I act in the same capacity as Councillor Duffey and I endorse and agree with the comments that Councillor Duffey has made”.

 

Councillors Harney and Roberts declared their prejudicial interest in the matter before the Committee by virtue of them being Board members of Wirral Partnership Homes and, in accordance with the officer’s advice, proposed to withdraw from the Committee after having given evidence to it.

 

Councillor Blakeley declared a personal interest, insofar as he had accepted hospitality from Wirral Partnership Homes, whilst in Harrogate in June 2008, attending the Annual Housing Conference. In response to a question from Councillor Blakeley, the Chair declared his personal interest, as he had also accepted hospitality from WPH at the Institute of Housing Conference.

 

In response to a question from Councillor Blakeley as to whether the Chair had recorded the hospitality in the register of interests maintained by the Director of Law, HR  ...  view the full minutes text for item 16.

17.

Explanation of the Call-In by Lead Signatory

Minutes:

Councillor Blakeley declined to explain the call-in at this stage, as he did not accept the constitutional validity of the guidelines that had been adopted by the Committee.

 

The Director of Law, HR and Asset Management advised the Committee that he had consulted with the Centre for Public Scrutiny, who had indicated their satisfaction that the guidelines were reasonable and lawful.

18.

Evidence from Call-In Witnesses

1.  Brian Simpson (Chief Executive WPH)

2.  Patrick McCarthy (Company Secretary WPH)

3.  Maggie Sparks (Interim Chairman WPH)

4.  Councillor Bill Duffey

5.  Councillor Karen Hayes

6.  Councillor Ian Lewis

7.  Councillor Steve Foulkes (key witness)

  or in his place Councillor Phil Davies

8.  Councillor George Davies (Cabinet Member for Housing and Community Safety)

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed each of the witnesses to the meeting and thanked them for their attendance.

 

It was moved by Councillor Taylor and seconded by Councillor Salter –

 

“That each of the witnesses be allowed to make a brief statement to the Committee prior to answering questions from members”

 

The motion was carried (4:3), Councillors Doyle, McLachlan, Salter and Taylor voting in favour; and Councillors Blakeley, Fraser and Pritchard voting against.

 

Brian Simpson (Chief Executive – Wirral Partnership Homes)

 

Mr Simpson indicated that he was somewhat perturbed at the way the issue had had been portrayed and he confirmed the desire of Wirral Partnership Homes (WPH) to work in partnership with the Council. However, there had been five meetings of the WPH Board that had been inquorate, largely because of a failure to attend by Council nominees. Clearly, the issue of inquorate meetings had to be addressed in order for the company to be able to function effectively, and in May 2008 he had written to the Council’s Chief Executive in order to work together to explore ways of improving attendance at Board meetings. He referred to regular liaison meetings held with Council officers and commented that initiatives proposed included more frequent briefings for Board members and increased co-operation in setting meeting dates to avoid clashes of the Board with meetings of the full Council. He recognised the difficulties members had in attending meetings, given the considerable number of meetings in the Council diary, but was happy to co-operate in order to encourage attendance.

 

Councillor Blakeley referred to the difficulties faced by members of the Council in attending meetings, and indicated that there were frequent clashes in membership. In response to a question from Councillor Blakeley, Mr Simpson indicated that the motion to the AGM could not be changed, although he conceded that it could fall, if members of the Board voted against it.

 

Councillor Blakeley requested an explanation of the origin of the company name – Wirral Partnership Homes, and he requested further information in relation to liaison meetings previously referred to. Mr Simpson indicated that the name was intended to convey the partnership that existed between the company, its residents and the Council. He stated that quarterly liaison meetings were held with officers from the Regeneration Department, at which notes were taken, and he suggested that this was an example of partnership working with the local authority.

 

Councillor Blakeley requested details in relation to the availability, for public scrutiny, of agendas and minutes of the WPH Board. He referred also to the potential for excluding Council nominated Directors. In response, Mr Simpson confirmed that the agendas and minutes of WPH Board meetings were not published and that there was nothing in the proposal to the AGM that would exclude any group represented on the Board.

 

In response to a question from Councillor McLachlan in relation to the reasons for non-attendance at Board meetings, Mr Simpson referred to the pressures on elected members, given the number of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 18.

19.

Evidence from Cabinet Member's Witnesses

1.  Councillor Jim Crabtree

2.  Councillor Denise Roberts

Minutes:

In the absence of Councillor Crabtree, the Chair had invited Councillor Harney to attend and give evidence and in response to a further request, he also proposed to hear evidence from Councillor Jeff Green, if the Committee were in agreement.

 

Councillor Tom Harney

 

In response to a question from the Cabinet Member for Housing and Community Safety, Councillor Harney indicated that he considered Cabinet minute 186 to be fair and accurate. He wished the Cabinet to support the Board of WPH, who were acting in the best interest of tenants.

 

Councillor Denise Roberts

 

In response to a question from the Cabinet Member as to the reasons for change to the constitution, proposed by WPH, Councillor Roberts indicated that her first knowledge of it was at a Board meeting on 29 July 2008, when problems of achieving a quorum were highlighted. She accepted the proposals, which she believed sought to address the problem, and commented also that there was a willingness of the Board to avoid clashes with meetings of the Council.

 

Councillor Jeff Green

 

In response to an earlier comment, Councillor Green stated that at the meeting of the Cabinet held on 4 September 2008, he had made the point that the proposal by WPH could effectively mean that important decisions could be taken without a Council Director being in attendance. He had also commented that WPH could assist in ensuring attendance by avoiding clashes with meetings of the Council. He had also made the point that the unavailability of minutes of the WPH Board was not acceptable. In response to a question from a member, he commented that although he believed the Cabinet minute to be accurate, the pre-amble was a summary, not a verbatim record.

20.

Summing up by Mover of Call-In

Minutes:

In response to a question from Councillor Blakeley as to who was deemed to be the mover of the call-in, the Director of Law, HR and Asset Management indicated that as the mover of the call-in had not been named, it was up to the signatories to it to nominate a member to sum up, if they wished to do so.

 

Councillor Blakeley stated that the reason for the call-in was quite clear, that the Conservative Group had serious concerns that the proposal would enable important matters to be determined by the WPH Board without assurance that a Council nominated Director would be in attendance. He agreed that the Council and WPH should work more closely together to ensure elected member representation at every meeting of the Board, but expressed the view that there was no need for the proposed amendment to the Articles of Association to achieve that objective. Although there had been widespread support for stock transfer, he commented that the Council was in danger of betraying the trust placed in it by the tenants and residents who had transferred to WPH, because of the reduction in accountability that would result from the proposed change.

21.

Summing up by Cabinet Member

Minutes:

Councillor G Davies declined the opportunity to sum up.

22.

Committee Debate

Minutes:

Ann Holme commented that she had contacted all of the member groups within the Wirral Federation of Tenants and Residents Associations (WFTRA), and all had expressed the view that there should always be Council representation on the WPH Board.

 

The Chair indicated that there was nothing in the proposed change that would exclude any Board member from attending, and he urged all Council-nominated Directors of WPH to make every effort to attend, utilising the system of deputies if a clash of meetings was unavoidable. He was also pleased to acknowledge the willingness of WPH to continue to work closely with the Council and to try to avoid clashes with key meetings.

23.

Committee Decision

Minutes:

It was moved by Councillor Blakeley and seconded by Councillor Fraser –

 

“(1) That this Committee recognises the important role the Board Directors of Wirral Partnership Homes (WPH), Tenants, Independent and Council Nominees play in ensuring that the business of WPH runs smoothly and that the promises made to tenants at transfer are carried out.

 

(2) That this Committee recognises that the Council has, and continues to work in ‘Partnership’ with WPH to deliver services to its tenants.

 

(3) Therefore, this Committee asks the Cabinet to reconsider its decision of 4 September 2008 (minute 186) and asks that the Council vote against the proposed changes to the Articles of Association of WPH at its Annual General Meeting on 30 September 2008.

 

(4) However, this Committee, in an effort to assist WPH, asks the Council to inform them that it will in principle support a change to its Articles of Association with regard to numbers and make up of constituent Directors in order for Board meetings to be quorate, and as such is prepared to reduce from two to one, the number of Council nominated Directors who have to be present at Board meetings. The Committee recognises that if this is acceptable to WPH, they can convene an EGM at relatively short notice to approve the changes.”

 

The motion was put and lost (3:4), Councillors Blakeley, Fraser and Pritchard voting in favour; and Councillors Doyle, McLachlan, Salter and Taylor voting against.

 

It was moved by Councillor McLachlan and seconded by Councillor Salter –

 

“That this Committee endorses Cabinet minute 186 and urges all Council members of the Wirral Partnership Homes Board to make every effort to attend and play a full part in WPH Board meetings.”

 

The further motion was put and carried (7:0)

 

At the request of the Chair, the Chief Executive of WPH agreed that should such a situation arise again, where there were no Council nominated Directors in attendance, he would report this to the Council at the earliest opportunity.

 

Resolved – That this Committee endorses Cabinet minute 186 and urges all Council members of the Wirral Partnership Homes Board to make every effort to attend and play a full part in WPH Board meetings.